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August 28, 2006

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Natalie

Wow I never knew that about Hauerwas, but it makes sense considering he's supposedly pretty cantankerous! ;)

I agree, there are no easy answers when it comes to this. I guess we have to pick our battles...

Paulicus

Hey Natalie, can I ask you your personal thoughts on the matter? As someone who, at least it seems to me, is right in the middle of this issue, have you thought of moving away and if so what has kept you here (I guess here being your Baptist heritage, maybe more specifically SBC)? For me personally I can't really give a well-reasoned argument as to why I would choose to stay. It basically just comes back to the realization that this is where I've always been and I have to believe there is a purpose for that. Why not believe it is to be used to help bring about reform? Although I can certainly relate to sitting in a pew thinking my bitter thoughts.

Natalie

Paul to tell you the truth, if it weren’t for Snowhill, I don’t think I would have involvement in the SBC. In fact, when I was attending college in Tulsa and in Wheaton, I did not go to an SBC church. Sure, there were those types of churches in the area, but instead I opted for Presbyterian and Anglican churches. If I ever were to involve myself in the ministry in such a way that would be against the beliefs of the SBC, I really don’t know what I would do. So locally, I have no issues, because I like my church community that happens to be SBC. When it comes to labels, though, sometimes I struggle with feeling comfortable taking on "Southern Baptist" and "evangelical" labels, considering the negative connotations that they have...

Nicole

Natalie, I think you've hit on something huge. All of my friends at Wheaton that are most like me and K in our histories have jumped ship to the Anglican church, and I quite understand the appeal.

I find it quite interesting that the majority of the department where I am based is Episcopal, but most also consider themselves evangelical.

I never say never, but the odds are great that I will not be a member of the SBC in any capacity ever again. One part because my beliefs are so far removed from the extraneous conditions placed on Christians by the SBC. The other part because the way that I cringe when someone asks me my affiliation and I have to start, "Well...I grew up Southern Baptist, but I'm not anymore...now I go to a loosely affiliated Christian Church, but I wouldn't say I'm Christian Church either." It just seems all too muddied.

Still, I'm not going to switch to Anglicanism, because I'm not a high church believer.

It's still ultimately fascinating that one of the premier Evangelical institutions produces so many High Church converts.

I'm ready to chuck it all and just say, I'm a follower of Christ. And that's about all I know for sure.

Natalie

Nicole, I'm glad you can vouch for me here!

I think what may be happening is that some students tend to move in the opposite direction from the tradition in which they grew up. I was attracted to the high church, while one of my good friends who grew up in the high church setting just loves the low church. Most people at Wheaton grew up in a tradition like mine, I would think. At least, when they organized chapel seating one year by denomination, we Baptists were the largest group by far...

I definitely agree with you in that it IS very fascinating that a place like Wheaton has so many high church fans!

Nicole

Natalie,

I also think some of it might be finding things out for themselves. If many of them grew up like I did..which seems likely (and similar to you), they were taught high church folk are misguided and sure aren't Christian folk.

So, how better to convince yourself that's a misbelief than to go join with such a group?

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